ライドン吼える - Living, Loving, Thinking, Again

Dave Simpson “76 minutes with … John Lydon” http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2012/may/31/john-lydon-sex-pistols-pil-interview

20年ぶりのPILのアルバムThis Is Pilがリリースされたばかりの*1がリリースされたばかりのジョン・ライドン *2へのインタヴュー。語るトピックは多岐に亙っているのだが、「占拠」運動*3について語っている箇所と、それに関連して、もう「アナーキーは信じない」と語っている箇所をカットしておく；

Does living in America give you an anonymity you had lost in the UK?

Well, people don't do that annoying English thing of standing in front of you and yelling at you. They give you freedom of space. I'm in England so often I haven't really left, but Americans aren't at all like they're misrepresented through their politicians. Evangelist Republicans believe you're poor because God doesn't love you. I've been satisfied with Obama, but how can you expect him to repair in four years the damage of George Bush in eight? But no one in British politics impresses me. I could never be a member of a single party. I want the best of all worlds, thank you. The only good political movement I've seen lately was Occupy Wall Street. They had no leaders, which was genius. But unfortunately it always ends up with some hippy playing a flute.

Is Occupy a taste of the Anarchy in the UK you foresaw in 1976?

I watched the British protesters being removed from Fortnum & Mason's on TV, and police and occupiers were bemused with each other. It was like Daffy Duck's day out. It's fantastic that police are now marching against the cuts. Understand that police are human beings too; so don't be willy-nilly throwing a brick at a policeman's helmet. That's not the real target. I don't believe in anarchy, because it will ultimately amount to the power of the bully, with weapons. Gandhi is my life's inspiration: passive resistance. I don't want to live in the Thunderdome with Mad Max.

*1:See Alexis Petridis “Public Image Ltd: This Is Pil – review” http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/may/24/public-image-ltd-this-review